Shirley Bormann, APSA, EPSA
October 2024 - "Harvesting Water Hibiscus"
About the Image(s)
Harvesting by a local fishermen/farmer as we were cruising on Inle Lake. Taken at f/8 1/640 sec at ISO 200 in afternoon sun. I have only received several acceptances on this image and suppose it might be because the subject is right in the middle of the image. Any other suggestions for improvements? Thank you.
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16 comments posted
(Group 4)
Shirley, as a member of group 4, I don't usually intrude on another study group, but I couldn't ignore your question. I went to Inle lake some years ago, and captured an image in the fog of one of the traditional fisherman with his foot around the oar and holding the net. I thought I captured exactly what and how they fish. My group thought it might have been staged( it wasn't), but I submitted the image for competition and not only did it get no acceptances, but it got low scores in relation to the cut-off. Go figure what prejudices the judges in any contest come to the bar with. So I would say, consider yourself lucky you got acceptances.   Posted: 10/04/2024 15:31:23
ALAN, I had the same experience at Inle Lake with the fisherman in the fog in the stance you described. I realize now that MY photo WAS staged. I'll have to look at my
Myanmar photos again! I can't remember what scores they got!   Posted: 10/07/2024 22:12:34
Myanmar photos again! I can't remember what scores they got!   Posted: 10/07/2024 22:12:34
Shirley, I do think this image is a bit busy and yes, there is the man in the middle, but I love it! I like the reflections in the water, the hills and the structure on the left. I tried cropping all the houses on the left but it looked cut off. I like the right side cropped to the light roof. Just a thought!
I have looked at this photo many times!   Posted: 10/07/2024 23:05:39
I have looked at this photo many times!   Posted: 10/07/2024 23:05:39
Shirley, I love this photo. I personally would not change a thing, to get the subject off center.
I have found that there is such a variance between judgings regarding the same photo. What one judge likes, the others don't. Very subjective on what gets accepted.
I am not familiar with Inle Lake, but I assume that it would be difficult to get this photograph today in Myanmar?   Posted: 10/19/2024 13:55:44
I have found that there is such a variance between judgings regarding the same photo. What one judge likes, the others don't. Very subjective on what gets accepted.
I am not familiar with Inle Lake, but I assume that it would be difficult to get this photograph today in Myanmar?   Posted: 10/19/2024 13:55:44
You would not want to travel to Myanmar today with the military junta in power. The lovely people are very oppressed. Thank you for your comments.   Posted: 10/26/2024 15:32:36
A very fine travel image Shirley, having been there I can tell this is "life on the lake". I think your main subject is just enough off centre and the structures on both edges help frame your composition, and the reflection adds much interest in the lower part of your frame. I took something similar but have not entered a salon with it yet!   Posted: 10/20/2024 15:16:51

Thanks, David. I like your photo.   Posted: 10/26/2024 15:33:29
Great image. The only suggestion is wait and see if she would face you. Probably a long wait since the boat is headed away from you.   Posted: 10/21/2024 14:08:11
Yes, that is what Sukumar suggested too but our boat was motoring so my voice would not have been heard.   Posted: 10/26/2024 15:36:22
I love this image. Great sense of place. But I'm not sure I'd want to live there (I'm partial to dry land under my feet). To Rich's suggestion, perhaps you could have called out to her? The curvy reflections are great!   Posted: 10/24/2024 06:00:09
Shirley, this is a nice image and the person being in the center is not that off-putting. BTW, we are not supposed to put accepted images in a study/DD or discussion groups according to the guidelines. I am glad to see the picture anyway. The founder of my club lived in Burma as a child. I would love to have seen the country, but never will now. You are lucky to have seen it.   Posted: 10/26/2024 19:02:20
(Group 2)
Remember this is a picture from a travel photography tutorial, I have a deep memory!   Posted: 10/27/2024 22:14:25
I don't understand what you are saying, Zhicai.   Posted: 10/29/2024 14:34:46
(Group 2)
Sorry, I didn't express myself more clearly.
To describe it again: I saw this picture during my advanced course in tourism photography, so it left a deep impression on me.
At that time, I thought: "1. The water houses on both sides, the people and boats rowing boats, as well as the water grass, distant mountains, and sky, do not show any cultural characteristics of a certain place. They can be seen everywhere, and there is no local or regional culture, which is not suitable for tourism photography.
2. Simple houses on wetlands and distant mountains exhibit weak local characteristics, making them difficult to identify; The sky, small boats, boat people, and water bodies have no distinctive features and cannot be recognized.
"I don't know if it's appropriate and accurate?
thank you!   Posted: 10/29/2024 19:18:50
To describe it again: I saw this picture during my advanced course in tourism photography, so it left a deep impression on me.
At that time, I thought: "1. The water houses on both sides, the people and boats rowing boats, as well as the water grass, distant mountains, and sky, do not show any cultural characteristics of a certain place. They can be seen everywhere, and there is no local or regional culture, which is not suitable for tourism photography.
2. Simple houses on wetlands and distant mountains exhibit weak local characteristics, making them difficult to identify; The sky, small boats, boat people, and water bodies have no distinctive features and cannot be recognized.
"I don't know if it's appropriate and accurate?
thank you!   Posted: 10/29/2024 19:18:50

That is my photo so I must have submitted it to Nadia for use in one of her classes. I appreciate your submitting your thoughts but do disagree with some of your statements that the photo does not show any cultural characteristics of a certain place. Certainly anyone who has been to Inle Lake, Myanmar recognizes it but not only that, the "house" on the left is a Buddhist temple on the lake and has some features exhibiting that; the boat and operator are dressed in local Asian clothes, the houses on stilts could be other places but I think it clearly shows an Asian place. A photo travel image does not have to show specifically where a photo is taken, just to have some cultural reference. If the temple was not included, and if the dress and boat wasn't included so that it was just the houses on stilts, I might agree.
But thanks for your comments..   Posted: 10/29/2024 23:28:35
But thanks for your comments..   Posted: 10/29/2024 23:28:35
(Group 2)
ok   Posted: 10/30/2024 22:15:48